Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Is Visual Objects a 32/64 bits Compiler ? [Updated 10th March 2009]

I started this thread at comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects

Response by Brian Feldman, Product Owner, Visual Objects & Vulcan.net

CCH,

>>Have Grafx announced any plan for a 64-bits version ?

None. No 64 bit version of VO will be forth coming.

Most of our development efforts are focused on Vulcan.Net, and VO
maintenance.

Vulcan.NET, which is an xBase compiler for .NET based on the "Visual Objects language".

Vulcan.NET produces a .NET exe or .dll. Supports all MS Frameworks. It uses Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 or 2008 as an IDE. An alternative IDE has also been written in Vulcan.NET called VIDE and a trial version is also available for download at the website.

Simply put Vulcan.NET _IS_ xBase for the future.

More info at and free Trial Version at http://www.GoVulcan.NET

A good place to start is to download our 150 page getting started guide:
http://www.govulcan.net/portal/GettingStarted/tabid/59/Default.aspx

Brian Feldman
GrafX Software http://www.Grafxsoft.com

Product Owner Visual Objects
Product Owner Vulcan.NET

Comments by Erik & Geof Schaller on same thread as follows :-

1. Vulcan.NET produces a .NET exe or .dll. Supports all MS Frameworks.

The support of the CF is very limited.
With some fiddling you will be able to compile and run an app for the CF,
but you won't have DBF support, no Macrocompiler and also the VO compatible
classlibs will not work on the CF. Also the Vulcan-VS support for CF lacks
interesting features for the CF.

If you consider developing for the CF, you better use one of the MS
languages.

Same suggestion for any new development. C# is not that hard at all!

Erik

2. Geoff Schaller
Chee,

As Brian has indicated, there will never be a 64 bit version of VO.
However, any VO or Vulcan app will run perfectly in a 32 or 64 bit
environment so why should it matter? There is very little you would
"need" a 64 bit application for, other than to squeeze a few
milliseconds of performance out, but unless your application needs to
deal routinely with numbers > 4GB I would suggest that 64 bit is largely
irrelevant.

And if you need to work with huge numbers routinely, why not go to C# or
VB.net?

Geoff


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